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  1. #21
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    John,
    Yes, you are right, I was not reading every sentence, so I missed the fact, that this Omega is a used one. The blue shine is a known problem, but that the scratches occurs that quick and easy was new to me.

    I apologize John. The picture is great!

    "Applying a coating to the topside of a sapphire crystal is a horrible mistake, and you can see why in the above photo. While the crystal is scratch resistant due to the man-made sapphire from which it is cut, the coating applied to the crystal can be scratched and will eventually show up, as you can see is happening to Scott's PO. Additionally, the dual coating gives the dial a distinct and (in my opinion) unattractive blue hue from certain lighting angles, which you can also see in the above photos. Both of these problems are avoided when the AR coating is simply applied to the underside of the crystal, where it can't be scratched - Omega did this with the Seamaster Professional, so its a mystery to me as to why they changed direction with the Planet Ocean."


    Sorry, thanks!

    Gr,
    István

  2. #22
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    Very interesting....i agree the sea dweller is a timeless classic, what a great watch...and also agree that the omega clasp is fantastic....rolex could do better here. Thank you for sharing.
    CY, Christian
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  3. #23
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    Thanks for sharing John,

    great report, very nice pics.

    Having owned both, I do disagrree on the bracelet and clasp, the PO bracelet is very solid and heavy, yes, but it's main drawback is the fact, that the wearer can not perform any fine adjustments, for one, the Omega uses the pin system and further the clasp can only be adjusted for wearing it over a wetsuit.

    The SD bracelet using screws and having the fine adjustment on the clasp is imho way more practical and comfortable.

    Just my 2C

    Cheers,

    Christian
    Gruß,

    Christian


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  4. #24
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    Hello John, very good review.
    Despite what do you like or what will be "in" at 10 years time there is no true reason to have a divers watch with orange numbers because at after a 10m depth there is no colour to be seen.
    Omega finaly copied the bezel of rolex, the older classical style of the seamaster was impossible to turn in the water and specialy with gloves. I used to have one when I was doing scuba diving. Certainly the clasp looks and works in a more modern way that the flip lock but it realy isn't as safe not to open accintentaly. So I think the more points there for the OP are not so good but is a matter of taste. Also on the beach it used to collect sand in between and was impossible to open it.
    Also the non automated helium ventil of the omega makes it not that practical. surely the divers in the decompresion champer have more things to worry than opening the crown, and surely is not such easy thing to do or to remember with the gloves on, or even with the wet cold hands after the diving.
    So I believe the Omega marketing is still orientated to make nice watches to look but not realy to use.
    Schoene Gruesse aus der Sonneninsel Rhodos

  5. #25
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    John,
    Yes, you are right, I was not reading every sentence, so I missed the fact, that this Omega is a used one. The blue shine is a known problem, but that the scratches occurs that quick and easy was new to me.

    I apologize John. The picture is great!

    "Applying a coating to the topside of a sapphire crystal is a horrible mistake, and you can see why in the above photo. While the crystal is scratch resistant due to the man-made sapphire from which it is cut, the coating applied to the crystal can be scratched and will eventually show up, as you can see is happening to Scott's PO. Additionally, the dual coating gives the dial a distinct and (in my opinion) unattractive blue hue from certain lighting angles, which you can also see in the above photos. Both of these problems are avoided when the AR coating is simply applied to the underside of the crystal, where it can't be scratched - Omega did this with the Seamaster Professional, so its a mystery to me as to why they changed direction with the Planet Ocean."


    Sorry, thanks!

    Gr,
    István
    No problem Istvan. I've never understood why a watch company will build a watch with a scratch resistant sapphire crystal, then place a coating over top of it that will eventually show scratches. Breitling watches use double AR coated crystals quite extensively.
    John B. Holbrook, II
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  6. #26
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    Hello John, very good review.
    Despite what do you like or what will be "in" at 10 years time there is no true reason to have a divers watch with orange numbers because at after a 10m depth there is no colour to be seen.
    Omega finaly copied the bezel of rolex, the older classical style of the seamaster was impossible to turn in the water and specialy with gloves. I used to have one when I was doing scuba diving. Certainly the clasp looks and works in a more modern way that the flip lock but it realy isn't as safe not to open accintentaly. So I think the more points there for the OP are not so good but is a matter of taste. Also on the beach it used to collect sand in between and was impossible to open it.
    Also the non automated helium ventil of the omega makes it not that practical. surely the divers in the decompresion champer have more things to worry than opening the crown, and surely is not such easy thing to do or to remember with the gloves on, or even with the wet cold hands after the diving.
    So I believe the Omega marketing is still orientated to make nice watches to look but not realy to use.
    Thanks Dimitris! :P

    You raise many good points. Although, the criticism of Omega copying the bezel may not be a legitimate one. You see, the old Seamaster 300's used a coin edge bezel similar to what's now used on the PO. Did Omega borrow from Rolex back then? Or the other way around? Some say that Rolex borrowed from the Blancpain 50 fathoms with the Sub design.... It's all very subjective.
    John B. Holbrook, II
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  7. #27
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    even if they both copied it from Blancpain, Rolex saw straight away the practical design for the use and adopted it while omega was changing it over years just for having a different design I believe.
    I used to be an Omega fan years ago but I saw many things that made me at last a Rolex nut.
    Schoene Gruesse aus der Sonneninsel Rhodos

  8. #28
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    But despite of all these the SD is the watch worn by most profecional divers and the only watch worn in real circumstances at a depth of 701m.
    Is the only true "sea dweller"
    Schoene Gruesse aus der Sonneninsel Rhodos

  9. #29
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    John, thak you very much for your stunning review of two very interesting watches!

    Good pictures and nicely written as enjoyed in your other reviews.

    Best regards, Tobias
    "Es gibt kein richtiges Leben im falschen"

    Theodor W. Adorno

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  10. #30
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    (As always) - Very, very interesting review, John!
    I'd prefer the Sea-Dweller as my wristwatch
    Test

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    John:
    Many thanks and congrats to your review!
    Regards
    Grüße -- Jürgen


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    RE: REVIEW: The Rolex Sea-Dweller vs. The Omega Planet Ocean>>>>

    THX for the GREAT Review
    "Der größte Erfolg des Zeitgeistes: Alle haben Uhren - niemand hat Zeit!" - Ernst Ferstl

    Greets Marc


  13. #33
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    even if they both copied it from Blancpain, Rolex saw straight away the practical design for the use and adopted it while omega was changing it over years just for having a different design I believe.
    I used to be an Omega fan years ago but I saw many things that made me at last a Rolex nut.
    A Tag Heuer 2000 was my first diver style watch, followed by several Omegas....I still have respect and admiration for the brand.
    John B. Holbrook, II
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    John, thak you very much for your stunning review of two very interesting watches!

    Good pictures and nicely written as enjoyed in your other reviews.

    Best regards, Tobias
    Thanks for the kind words!
    John B. Holbrook, II
    OWNER - LUXURY TYME: The Rolex Reference Page

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    you are very welcome!

    since i have read your review about the omega seamaster gmt and the ex II (which i own myself for 16 years now) three weeks ago , i started to learn more about rolex, became member in this forum and bought another one: a 1979 reference # 16014.

    in other words: the virus has taken control on me
    "Es gibt kein richtiges Leben im falschen"

    Theodor W. Adorno

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    you are very welcome!

    since i have read your review about the omega seamaster gmt and the ex II (which i own myself for 16 years now) three weeks ago , i started to learn more about rolex, became member in this forum and bought another one: a 1979 reference # 16014.

    in other words: the virus has taken control on me
    It happens to the best of us...the question is, do we really want to be cured?
    John B. Holbrook, II
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    i am not really sure about that...

    "Es gibt kein richtiges Leben im falschen"

    Theodor W. Adorno

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  18. #38
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    RE: REVIEW: The Rolex Sea-Dweller vs. The Omega Planet Ocean>>>>

    great as usual...

    Gruss Alex
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    great report with great pictures

    very well done john!
    mfg Christoph

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    RE: REVIEW: The Rolex Sea-Dweller vs. The Omega Planet Ocean>>>>

    Original von Alexus
    great as usual...

    Thanks!
    John B. Holbrook, II
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