red military

[marcel-wien]

hallo,

heute will ich euch mal eine nicht alltägliche uhr vorstellen. hierbei handelt es sich um eine 1680 red aus 72/73. diese uhr würde an die peruanische lufftwaffe (die auch eine kampftauchertruppe beinhaltet) ausgeliefert.

laut marcello psiani (der selbst auch eine hat) sind weltweit unter 10 dieser uhren bekannt. meine war früher in der sammlung von karl heinz rummenigge!
der zustand der uhr ist einfach sensationell. die krone samt tubus sind aus der ersten serie der triplock kronen, das glas ein markI 127er. (alles noch wasserdicht!!)

bei fap uhren würde der "FUERZA AEREA DEL PERU" schriftzug auf den rückdeckel graviert, zusätzlich ist noch die volle serienummer (wie bei DRSD zmb.) in inneren eingraviert.

unter dem fap schriftzug ist noch wie bei Comex uhren eine interne verifizierungsnummer eingraviert (2 stellig)

wenn wer informationen zu fap uhren hat oder selbst eine hat bitte ich alles hier in den thread zu posten oder mir eine pn zu schicken.

[AndreasL]

Glückwunsch zu dem Traumstück; hoffentlich kommen noch viele Infos zu dem Thema zusammen.

[Explorer MUC]

tolle uhr!!!

[thomasvc]

Wow! Ich wundere mich immer wieder, welche "Sahneteilchen" hier im Forum schlummern!

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zu dieser fantastischen Uhr, Marcel!

[WUM]

geil

sorry............herzlichen Glückwunsch zu der Seltenheit


Gruss


Wum

[larsk]

krasse uhr

[kaiserfranz]

Wow was für ein Prachtstück !!

Ist das die von W. ?


Herzlichen Glückwunsch, wirkllich ein seltener und wunderschöner Fund !!

Viel Spaß damit.....

[Muigaulwurf]

einfach göttlich

[jagdriver]

LOL - wußte bis jetzt gar nicht das Peru eine
Luftwaffe bzw. Kampftaucher hat.

Und wieso wurden ausgerechnet die mit einer
Rolex ausgestattet???

Gruß
Robby

[Dr.Nick]

traumhaft

[markus1981]

Super tolle Uhr!

Glückwunsch !

[Salamander]

Glückwunsch Marcel

Hatte die Uhr schon in der Hand und muss sagen Sie ist wirklich ein großartiges Stück Rolexgeschichte.

Gruss

Christoph

Ps: Pass bloss auf die Verifizierungsnummer auf! Die poliert sich schnell raus!

[COMEX]

Wunderschöne Uhr Marcel, viel Spaß damit!

all: einfach "FUERZA AEREA DEL PERU rolex" bei Google in die Bildersuche eingeben...

[alicia]

unverschämt








schön

[marcel-wien]

Original von Salamander
Glückwunsch Marcel

Hatte die Uhr schon in der Hand und muss sagen Sie ist wirklich ein großartiges Stück Rolexgeschichte.

Gruss

Christoph

Ps: Pass bloss auf die Verifizierungsnummer auf! Die poliert sich schnell raus!

ich trage die zwar täglich, habe die nummer mit einem stück tixo gegen abbrieb gesichert.

[bullibeer]

Glückwunsch Marcel... traumhafte UHR!!!!



Und die FAP sind noch teilweise unterschätzte Militäruhren... aber es fängt an.... hatte vor 2 Wochen ein ziemlich sündhaftes Gebot für meine bekommen... und gestern die Wahl um Sie gegen eine 16800 Comex ein zu tauschen.....

Aber ich glaube die FAP ist in Zukunft die viel seltenere Uhr....!!!!


Hier ist meine und ein wenig Info © londonwatchcompany






Typischer Sigma-Dial mit LOW ROC (wie auch in der 6240!!!) der FAP's!







Habe auch Rolex Genf Service papers







Die Info:



Description


A rare, collectable and quite stunning Rolex Cosmograph Daytona model ref 6265 Fuerza Aerea Del Peru (FAP) with faded Brown Sub dials and Silver Gilt writing. Often referred to as the Military Daytona.
Whilst the Rolex Military & Comex collaborations have enjoyed huge popularity among collectors, and deservedly so as they are very special watches. There are other special deliveries produced by Rolex, which may not have the features of the military subs or unique reference of a Comex 5514, but were often produced in fewer numbers and are still very interesting watches to collect.
Examples of such deliveries are the IFREMER/CNEXO and Marine Nationale dive watches and Fuerza Aerea Del Peru (FAP) cosmographs such as the one presented here.
The Rolex Fuerza Aerea Del Peru Cosmographs were produced with model references from 6238 to 6263/5 by Rolex for the Peruvian Air force in limited numbers (circa 700-800) between early 1960 and the mid 1980s, (the case numbers range from 1 to 6 million).
The history of Peruvian Air force can be found at
http://www.scramble.nl/pe.htm
The colaboration between Rolex and the FAP is believed to have been due to the close friendship between the official Rolex dealer of Lima, and the late Hei*****, Head of Rolex South America (& father of Patrick Hei***** General Director of Rolex SA).
The Fuerza Aerea Del Peru Issued watches have also been noted on non daytonas, such as model ref 1680/1675 and even steel datejusts. We cannot provide any estimates of the numbers produced for these additional models.
The Fuerza Aerea Del Peru Cosmographs are often found with the following characteristics
Dials from 6239 to 6263/5 usually without the word daytona
Outer Case backs engraved with Fuerza Aerea Del Peru (engraved by Rolex, who have a record of the issue numbers) and very lightly engraved delivery numbers (often erased via polishing as with the early Comex 5513/4)
Inner Case backs with specific serial engravings
As with this particular watch, many of the dials found on the FAP Daytonas during this period, had sub dials which faded to a light brown colour, the sub dials also had a rare silver gilt writing, instead of the usual white. Like the Rolex Double Red Sea Dweller model ref. 1665 with Mk11 dials, the fading of the sub dials is believed to have occurred due to the pigment contained with the paint used on this particular batch. The result is beautiful to look at and has become very collectable.
This 6265 brown sub dial cosmograph with all lume dots in tact and matching hands, comes with:-
• Rolex Service Papers from 2007
• 78350 19 Bracelet
• Correct and matching serial markings engraved within the caseback

As collectors learn more about the subtleties of Rolex watches the Fuerza Aerea Del Peru (FAP) or Military Daytona have increased in value, whilst not yet on a level with the Paul Newman it still attracts a premium over standard dial and big red Daytonas.
But more importantly it is quite stunning to wear.









und (glaube aus ner ITAl. Zeitschrift...)




there are however to make some premises: the 1. criteria that guided several the commandos of the Armed Forces of the most disparati countries in the choice of a clock to assign, have been in passed very various from those odierni. that thirty years ago it was watched to the quality of the clock to select as main criterion is a fact by now ascertained. rolex the 5513 W10 or 0552 can be an example for all. the 2. costs of clocks of the sort, thirty years or more years ago, were not those odierni. do not have to fall in the easy trap to watch to these clocks with the appraisal criteria odierni which country would acquire, to distribute to the pilots of the own Armed Forces, 6263 or 6265 to 30k every creed that 99% of these clocks would go "smarrito" in action or training in the first week 3. to assign of the crono to the own Armed Forces, more often to aviation, were the most common use, test of are tantissimi heuer, lemania, breitling the etc. (genuine!!) that there are in turn. 4. the cost of rolex 6263 or 6265 in those years was like a heuer autavia or of a lemania, and the refuse in percentage was not absolutely comparable to odierne the appraisals considered that around to the 87/88 (if the memory does not trick me) 6263 cost from the concessionaire unmilionetrecentocinquantamila () and a Omega speedy cost approximately ottocentomila, always from the concessionaire obviously the military supplies, for a greater pieces number, offered of the advantages does not reserve you to the common customer. saying all this, and entering in the merit of the FAP; a number ce had it eccome, but it was recorded less deeply regarding the dicitura. like postato from Optimist often is by now nearly invisibile for the many polishings endured in the time other times has been intentionally cancelled at the moment of the "loss"..... in any case to the inside of the bottom the number of matriculation of the case MUST be brought back, or, at least, the three final numbers. for how much it concerns to the reasons of the choice of the GMT, or of the tog...... it goes beyond the most fervent imagination than everyone of we creed was the idea "to reward" officials pertaining to some military earth units. on this bottom as an example I have some doubt: The surface of the Perù catches up 1,285 million km2, with one population of 27,5 million inhabitants, par to 21 for km2 (around 2001). The PIL was then of 132 billions of dollars, that is 4800 for inhabitant. A relatively poor Country, but not therefore seriously like many other Countries of the Third world, while the little dynamics economy took care, with one decrescita from 0.3% in 2001. Nevertheless, the Perù has resources and reservoirs: minerals, ittiche resources, oil, gold, branch, manifacturing industry. The president of was after-Fujimori has become the sign. Toledo with signs of resumption, found it hard, of the national economy, but immense corruption, aggravated from the cocaine cultivation remained the plagues of one in sure zones of the Country. Problems with the neighbors: with Ecuador the situation was stable, less with Colombia, while Luminous Sendero continued its activity. Considering that the Country is a sour nation much and montuosa one, the control of the immense territory is difficult and aviation plays a fundamental role, above all in order to exceed the Cordigliera of the Andes that adorns between the Atlantic coast and the amazonian forest. The Perù is a nation with turbulent borders, that they have seen numerous wars of border. As an example, with the Equador they have been crashs of frontier in 1976, 1977, February 1981. Moreover in 1995 you new war of border has been one. In all these actions the parts have been employment of aviation from both, and are famous as an example that two Peruvian SU-22 have been pulled down in an aerial battle from part of the Mirage F.1. Already in February 1981 have seen one strongly crisis poichè the troops ecuadoregne succeeded in to penetrate of 10 km within the previewed Peruvian borders from the River agreements de Janeiro, sopravvenuti in 1941 after the frontier crashs that as soon as had happened to the border of the two nations. Ecuador has one historical rivalry with the Perù. The remarkable thing was the difference of nominal forces: Ecuador was and is a nation less strongly quantitatively of the Perù, but it has a qualitative superiority apparently thanks to the optimal use of the resources available. To part this, has been other problems: the trozkista guerrilla to the border of Bolivia, gradually repressed in years ' 60, and above all the inner group Luminous Sendero of communist inspiration, a perhaps greater enemy of any other for the Perù. Curious, draft of a communist movement but the Perù is a good friend of USSR, and of it puts into effect them Russia, from which it has recently bought a consistent number of blots of it from combat and several crews, in particular a group of MiG-29 and one of On-25, but already in years ' 70 had a large one left of On-20/22 and an entire fleet of tanks, artilleries, arranges antiaircraft.

[marcel-wien]

danke bernhard für die info.
ich denke auch das die uhr unterbewertet ist, ist sicher seltener als eine 5517.

[bullibeer]

Nun ja... die 5517....


Im Moment ist wohl so die Knowledge... dass nur ca. 200-250 Uhren als 5517 geliefert wurden... und davon nur ein Teil als W10... also selten... tja... wohl selten.


Die 1680 FAP ist super selten!

Kenne 2-3 1675...

und ca. 5-6 Daytona's...

[Dr. K]

Herrlich!

Was eine tolle Uhr, was für eine Geschichte!

Gruß,
Marco.

[Smile]

Diese Uhr ist der OVERKILL -- ENJOY IT, MY FRIEND !!!!