Hello Haagen,
as far as I know, we have one or two of these 168000 here in the Forum. But I guess, the owners will contact you soon...
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27.08.2004, 12:07 #1
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Rolex Submariner 168000...any lucky owners here?
Hi all, I am new here. I am doing ? further ? research on my 168000 Subs from 1988-1989. Could any owners pls. contact me to get this research t the next step? I greatly appreciate any info.
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27.08.2004, 12:15 #2Gruß Percy
"Ferner wird hier auch auf Ihrem Profil sehr viel Diversität benötigt."
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27.08.2004, 12:18 #3GatsbyGast
RE: Rolex Submariner 168000...any lucky owners here?
Hi Kristian,
welcome on board, nice to see you here !!!!
We have half of denmark as our members, hope you will stay and visit us regularly ....
Btw. we have a small Panerai section here - I don't like them anymore, IMO to much fashion - but as I know, you have still your very nice small Pam collection!
We had somebody here with a 168000 some weeks ago, hope this person will read your post.
Many greetings my friend
Werner
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27.08.2004, 12:27 #4
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Hi Werner.
yes, I still enjoy an exclusive and rare Panerai collection, but my 168000 find has had my head turn "back" to Rolex. Even have a Daytona coming in anytime now...
I am amazed by the rarity of the 168000 and can't believe how lucky I was finding not just one, but two within few weeks after I realized what it was all about..
I agree that Panerai has somewhat developed into a money watch, but thankfully I was on the wagon early enough to enjoy low prices and rare models.
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27.08.2004, 12:31 #5
Hi Haagen,
a friend of mine has a 168000.
What do you want to know about it???
I´ll post some pics tonight)
Gruß, Hannes
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27.08.2004, 12:38 #6
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168000
kenn' ich leider noch nicht.
Fehldrucke?
limitierte Auflage?
Zwischenserie?
oder, oder, oder?
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27.08.2004, 12:39 #7
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Hi Hannes
Hi Hannes,
I would love to see pix of that 168000. Could you do model- & serial close-ups. Also let me know if the dial has faded into matte or still modern gloss?
The 1680000only ran between mid 1988-early 1989 with serial 9 mill - R.
I really appreciate this! You can mail me the pix on kristian.haagen<img src="images/smil...g" />gmail.com
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27.08.2004, 12:43 #8
No Prob. I have those pics at home
and I´ll post them at around 5 p.m.Gruß, Hannes
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27.08.2004, 14:17 #9
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Hello Haagen,
i have a sub from 12-1988, but i do not know if this is a 168000. I know it is a 16800, but the 3th 0???
tonight i will look at the certificate.
To see som pictiures just click here: http://www.r-l-x.de/wbb2/thread.php?threadid=2425&sid=
Greetings RobGruss Rob
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27.08.2004, 14:39 #10StefanSGast
Hi Haagen,
I am a owner of a 16800 from 1989.
What do u want to know exactly??
tell me ur questions and I try to answer them soon.
Welcome on board.
Stefan
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27.08.2004, 14:41 #11
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27.08.2004, 14:41 #12
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certificate
Hi Rob,
the certificate will indicate 16800, not 168000. You need to remove the bracelet above the 12-marker to see if the 3rd zero is present. I believe there were still run-of-the-mill 16800 Subs produced in the same periode, even 12/88.
The 168000 case is actually a 16610 case. but since the 16610 had not yet been introduced at that time ? not until April 1989 ? the extra zero was engraved to distinguish the different metal alloy cases. The 16800 case is 316L, the 168000 and 16610 are current 904L. So...only the case makes the difference. Just like the movement alone makes a 5512.
However, the 16800/0 used the older style dials, which were pretty fragile. My first 168000 had a very matte dial. looked like a combo of transitional and modern dial as it of course has the WG indices. You can compare the 16800/0 dials with the cream 16550 dials. Very sensitive to the sunlight.
Pls. let me know what you find. Mail me pics of model- and serial number if it turns out to be a 168000! Another guy read my reasearch and took off his bracelet to check...and imagine his thrill when he found out it was...but it was also a COMEX! Imagine...his fortune just doubled. A 168000 COMEX. Probably one of THE rarest production Submariners.
My other 168000 has "normal" glossy dial without patina nor any signs of "sunray marks".
Imagine the horror if you had a 168000 case replaced!!!!
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27.08.2004, 14:44 #13
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168000...not 16800
Hi Stefa,
try to remove the bracelet and check the model number. Is it a 16800 or 168000? Pls. pay attention to the extra zero in the end of the model number. If it is a 168000, then pls. mail me pics of serial and model number as mentioned to hannes and Rob.
thanx.
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27.08.2004, 15:32 #14
RE: 168000 welche Ref?
Original von Rolex
kenn' ich leider noch nicht.
Fehldrucke?
limitierte Auflage?
Zwischenserie?
oder, oder, oder?all,
first,Welkomme "Haagen" nice to see you on board.
Kollege Rolex,
die Ref. 16800/0 besagt aus,daß es sich hierbei um eine "gewöhnliche"
16800 handelt,also der Vorläufer einer 16610 noch ohne Weißgoldgefasste Indexe und älterem Cal.
Nun kommt´s,die zusätzliche 0 bei der Ref. bedeutet nichts anderes
als das sich der Werkstoff zu den "normalen" 16800 geändert hat,sprich die Legierung etwas modifiziert wurde.
Diese Aussage bekam ich von Rolex Genf nachdem ich eine solche besessen hatte und in mir sich die gleiche Frage auftat)
Beste Grüße Ralph
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27.08.2004, 15:39 #15
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RE: 168000 welche Ref?
Original von Ralph
Original von Rolex
kenn' ich leider noch nicht.
Fehldrucke?
limitierte Auflage?
Zwischenserie?
oder, oder, oder?all,
first,Welkomme "Haagen" nice to see you on board.
Kollege Rolex,
die Ref. 16800/0 besagt aus,daß es sich hierbei um eine "gewöhnliche"
16800 handelt,also der Vorläufer einer 16610 noch ohne Weißgoldgefasste Indexe und älterem Cal.
Nun kommt´s,die zusätzliche 0 bei der Ref. bedeutet nichts anderes
als das sich der Werkstoff zu den "normalen" 16800 geändert hat,sprich die Legierung etwas modifiziert wurde.
Diese Aussage bekam ich von Rolex Genf nachdem ich eine solche besessen hatte und in mir sich die gleiche Frage auftat)
Vielen Dank!
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27.08.2004, 16:51 #16
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Sorry Haagen,
I cannot help you. I went to a jewerly store next door and she removed it. Only two 0's
I looked at the certificate and the 16800 was bought 2-11-1988 in Amsterdam.....
Good luck with your search and investigation !
RobGruss Rob
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27.08.2004, 16:59 #17
And here are the pics of the 168000
The watch belongs to our member Bernd.
(No, he´s not going to sell it)
Gruß, Hannes
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27.08.2004, 17:18 #18
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extra zero
Hannes, check out the crude extra zero on the pics you posted.. Undoubtedly it has been added. Mine is perfect, no sighns of later printing.
Would you mind mailing them to me as well?
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27.08.2004, 17:19 #19
Sur I can mail them. But I´ve seen other once with
that "extra printed" zero at the end.Gruß, Hannes
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27.08.2004, 17:23 #20
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Extra Zero
Both mine are "born" with 168000. This is the first post-printing 168000 I have seen. I really appreciate this. Learning everyday, isn't that great!!!
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