Waterproof

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11.03.2008, 21:27
philipp

Waterproof

Hi all,

I made a photo to show you the similarity between the early 32 mm Oyster ref. 678 waterproof canal Rolex from 1934 sold by Coombes Company Ltd. London & Rangoon and the Panerai 3646 with military history....

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...airolexrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...xrolex-rlx.jpg

& After i've seen Ed's scan of these 2 german kampfswimmer in Bernhards thread i always think of my vintage Panerai. The big guy on the right was Heinz Brettschneider and his Panerai 3646 i have since some years in the collection. I bought it from the grandson of a dutch officer who fought at Nimegen, Operation Market Garden were he probably got it from Mr. Brettschneider who also has fought exact there with his team and as only living soldier from that team came back from the war and finnaly was the founder / trainer for many years of the east german special force / kampfswimmer unit....

Here we see the whole scan of Mr. Brettschneiders team..
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rai3646rlx.jpg

Set with compass and rare deptmeter..
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...3646setrlx.jpg

Some scans of the still unrestored all original blue hands, reddish radium sandwich dial..
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...omirdefrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...i3646-5rlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...i3646-1rlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...i3646-2rlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...i3646-3rlx.jpg

Here with tropical Tudor Big Crown from french MN....
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...panerairlx.jpg

Here with a later 6152 that already has the wellknown clasp...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ivecciarlx.jpg

Here with 2 x elegant Ur Portugieser from end of the war and a 80's Spiegelei...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...wcpam-1rlx.jpg

Regards and thanks for looking,

Philipp
11.03.2008, 21:34
alicia

8o 8o 8o 8o 8o
do you have an antique shop?
very nice collection :gut:
11.03.2008, 21:41
klobi

8o 8o 8o
Impressive....
11.03.2008, 21:44
Jason Spring

Incredible to see such wonderful pieces.
Congrats for your collection !!!
11.03.2008, 22:18
retsyo

8o 8o This should easily do for a museum... 8o 8o
11.03.2008, 22:50
paddy

Speechless ...! 8o8o
11.03.2008, 23:49
andie

My goodness! This is what I call 'Vintage' :verneig:
12.03.2008, 02:26
ehemaliges mitglied

Wow, I am impressed, I have never seen any of these watches. Very cool!
12.03.2008, 14:55
philipp

Thanks !!

Here some military tracks ; - ) on a 1958 Tudor Big Crown Marine National....

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...cachterrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...tswisstrlx.jpg
12.03.2008, 15:14
NicoH

What an amazing post - thanks! :gut:

The hands on the 678 look terrific.

Wonderful watches, thanks for sharing!

Nico
12.03.2008, 15:52
retsyo

Wow, thanks for showing them! :gut:
12.03.2008, 17:08
philipp

thanks guy's!!

here is another rare beauty, original Thunderbird 6609 with nice engravement including all goodies ; - )
how often do we see one of these ?

Rgrds.P

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...derbirdrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...9achterrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rs/6609rlx.jpg
12.03.2008, 17:39
chips

8o thanks for sharing your pictures of those wonderful watches :gut:

Gilbert
12.03.2008, 17:54
Montreal

wow, .. is that all yours, i might get a bit jealous.. hehe
nice collection you got..
12.03.2008, 22:05
philipp

re

It's ok to be jealous ; - )

Thanks! Rgrds.Philipp

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...lexgoudrlx.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...xbrownrlx1.jpg
12.03.2008, 22:25
retsyo

RE: re

8o 8o 8o
12.03.2008, 23:50
bullibeer

He PHILIPP,.... going strong today ;-)

All fantastic killers my friend,... all brought together with great passion....

Thanks for sharing!
13.03.2008, 17:08
mller

hi philipp,

very nice your panerais,

i like them too

http://i25.tinypic.com/1233zme.jpg

http://i27.tinypic.com/10h4oza.jpg
25.03.2008, 20:57
bullibeer

Dieter,... it's so beautiful... i'm in love!!!!

As on your's Philipp,... woooooow... what great, you found the image of the diver.
When you read some of the stories in the Panerai book... it's unbelivable what these guy's must have been through. As all people in this time...

History... pure history!

Enjoy
25.03.2008, 21:41
Hannibal

8o Wow! Very impressive watches. Never seen before.
Thanks for sharing. :gut:
Kind regards
Volker
25.03.2008, 22:34
Moehf

Wow, that´s real old stuff, great!!!
25.03.2008, 22:59
philipp

To keep in line with the waterproof title of this topic...here some crowns...

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/3xcrowns.jpg

Brevet + crown of the 3646 Radiomir
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...erai3646-4.jpg

Ultra elegant crown of a Submariner 6204 from 2'53.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...ouche-1rlx.jpg

Rolex & Tudor 8 mm Brevet crown from '56.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...exkroonrlx.jpg

Tudor 7928 Square crowns from '59.
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...rsqsiderlx.jpg

I still love this scan...with a little help of some tape i finnaly got it ; - )
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...exkroonrlx.jpg
25.03.2008, 23:15
bullibeer

Ohh Philipp,... you make me crazy,... how can i ever lay down easy,.. when you are keeping to blind me with this beauties,... as giving a junky a sniff cocaine,.. day by day..
26.03.2008, 00:12
simon

Hi Phillip,

those are amazing watches, thanks a lot for sharing.

I have a question, though. I was always under the impression that the Radium on the Radiomir dial does not necessarily further your health. Isn't the dial still radiant and isn't it therefore dangerous to remove the crystal?
26.03.2008, 17:57
Eddm

Holy moly, I cannot believe my eyes 8o

:verneig::verneig::verneig:
26.03.2008, 18:19
Mike Wood

Fantastic pictures as usual Philipp!

Of your great watches! :dr:

Some of my old junk... :gut:

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10942.jpg

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10939.jpg

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10943.jpg

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10957.jpg

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10956.jpg

Mike Wood

:supercool:
26.03.2008, 18:42
Hr.Nitsche

I really start to like them :gut:
26.03.2008, 23:44
philipp

Mike, i am really in love with your side picture of...

your 3 Panerai's, what a great & informative picture! very nice to see the ev olution of each model!!

&

Isn't the dial still radiant and isn't it therefore dangerous to remove the crystal?

Yes these dials are still giving radiation, some more then others, some could be dangerous wearing all the time giving you 100 times the radiation you may have a day. Worst Gamma radiation are the sandwish dials from the early Radiomir Panerai 3646's [ like mine ; - ( ] giving 14 Micro Sievert. That's 3 times more then the California - Rolex Radium dials and about 20 times more then the Luminor Panerai 6152 dials from 1955... Friend of mine told me that the depth meter and compas are even worse then these measurements....i only wear mine maybe 2-3 times a year & never breath in the little dust that comes of a Radium dial, be carefull!!

Rgrds.P

Here a sub 6205 and a gmt 6542 in blacklight...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...exradium2x.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/6538_cat.jpg
26.03.2008, 23:52
philipp

RE: Mike, i am really in love with your side picture of...

Zitat:

Original von philipp
your 3 Panerai's, what a great & informative picture! very nice to see the evolution of each model!!

&

Isn't the dial still radiant and isn't it therefore dangerous to remove the crystal?

Yes these dials are still giving radiation, some more then others, some could be dangerous wearing all the time giving you 100 times the radiation you may have a day. Worst Gamma radiation are the sandwish dials from the early Radiomir Panerai 3646's [ like mine ; - ( ] giving 14 Micro Sievert. That's 3 times more then the California - Rolex Radium dials and about 20 times more then the Luminor Panerai 6152 dials from 1955... Friend of mine told me that the depth meter and compas are even worse then these measurements....i only wear mine maybe 2-3 times a year & never breath in the little dust that comes of a Radium dial, be carefull!!

Rgrds.P

Here a sub 6205 and a gmt 6542 in blacklight...
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...exradium2x.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...s/6538_cat.jpg
27.03.2008, 07:37
bullibeer

RE: Fantastic pictures as usual Philipp!

Zitat:

Original von Mike Wood
Of your great watches! :dr:

Some of my old junk... :gut:

http://www.theoldwatchshop.com/collpics/Dscn10942.jpg

Mike Wood

:supercool:

He Mike,
you own such a fantastic collection! These Panerai's are so amazing... have had some time in the vintage Panerai book,.. amazing history and stories.
Enjoy these beauties! And as i understand from Philipp,... mostly behind glass.. ;)

Thanks guy's for sharing... it's a piece of Rolex history (cushin shape watches) that is forgotten sometimes... :verneig:
31.03.2008, 17:44
philipp

re waterproof

New to my family from today are..Omega Military 300, Tropical Speedy and 5218-201/A
Rgrds.Philipp

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t.../3xmaanrlx.jpg
31.03.2008, 21:53
Jason Spring

Just stunning !!!
I would love to see your entire collection :gut:
31.03.2008, 22:11
superraecher

very good :gut:
01.04.2008, 04:24
ehemaliges mitglied

Philipp:

that's an incredible collection. How long did it take to get such a collection together? Very impressive to say the least. You could open a museum with these watches!

Cheers, Boris